If I ever need to find one of my pages I just google with zenstat in the search string. Image: Trans stamp showing common features The height of the Trans Stamps vary. Give them your usb stick and tell them to 'stencil' cut the logo into a vinyl sticker sheet. Dating cymbals is notoriously difficult. If you planning on shipping your cymbals please download the prior sending them.
Sorry if my New Beat page is a bit hard to find. Simply click the link on the invoice and enter your debit or credit card details. If you think that is far fetched, then consider a purely English calligraphic device: Try to imagine decoding that if you aren't familiar with the English alphabet. It seems these came in the late 1940s to early 1950s. This image overlays the letters I had identified.
But when we talk about it is the ones in a triangle in the Ottoman section upper portion of the stamp. I don't see the point why we need to put and show-off the logos' of these cymbals specially when you're not an endorser. There may not be a 1954 stamp as such. Pricing in this area is going to be a bit complex for custom orders and will be based on how intricate the art work is and how many colors. In the mist of preparing to sell a set of 15 New Beats I noticed the 1411g gram bottom hat, complete with a 31mm 60s stamp, had a faded Zildjian Hollow logo. For examples of Trans Stamp hammering, go to the.
In addition, Avedis models were uniformly produced in machine hammering by the middle of the decade. Here is a second version thanks to Cliff DeArment for spotting it which also has Ludwig included on it. I'd go 60s on lathing because of the variability in the distance between the tonal grooves. According to Paul Francis and his discussions with Leon Chiappini, it seems likely that cymbals sat in the vault after manufacture and didn't get the trademark stamp until a tester picked them to fill an order. Matt, I ended up picking up a few hollow ink logo Zildjians back in the summer for my son's drumset. We are still working to find out whether the difference between these two stamps might represent manufacturing era, different markets, or different drum companies. Because of the detail involved which most of you might not want go get into there is a separate page on the where the details are shown.
But ink stamps giving model and or weight appear to have been an Avedis Zildjian innovation which was around from the beginning. Everything before that was hollow ink logos, some of which I also still have. Are you somehow going to get more respect from musicians and audiences because you have big giant Zildjian or Paiste logos on your cymbals? See our Zildjian cymbal packs at GoDpsMusic. If you play technically you sound like everybody else. The stamp tells you which stamp went on the cymbal when it was stamped. Use it with us - we'll beat those prices, too! The upper portion of the stamp goes through different changes over the years. Bill's original article illustrated two Pre Trans Stamps and gave a likely order of Exhibit H being older and Exhibit F more recent.
I've still got 1977 on my site I believe. Might be less teadious than going freehand with a ruler. Zildjian, Constantinople trademark, owned by Fred Gretsch Mfg Co, but it took some more years before A. His family's cymbal-manufacturing company was founded in Istanbul in 1623. It is possible that cymbals were manufactured in the 1960s and sat in the vault for a few years, then they were given a 60s stamp after 1977, and received the hollow ink Zildjian before they were shipped out.
They are not expensive and I like them better than new Zildjians. It is a 13 cymbal by the way. A measurement of the stamp will provide the most accurate information. Unlike those house credit cards that can leave you vulnerable to exorbitant interest charges once the promotional period ends, we never have and never will charge interest when you take advantage of one of the zZounds Play as you Pay® plans. You can find links to it elsewhere on my site particularly in the annotated year by year page but it isn't linked from everywhere it might be.
Avedis Zildjian Gallery A gallery of the Avedis Trademark and Ink Logo eras Scroll down through this gallery and you move through the production eras of Avedis Zildjian cymbals from the beginning to the current day. The smaller crashes seem harder to find. Their use in Ottoman is to change the pronunciation of that letter slightly. Don't mix up the Pre Trans Stamp Thin Ottoman example having three dots at the bottom, with the general discussion of which are in a triangle and not a line. But they did have model and weight ink designations. Some but not all Trans Stamps show very obvious hammer blows on both the top and the bottom. The sabian cymbal cleaner I used was absolutely horrible and if a drop even touched the logo it would come off.
My assessment is based on the style of ink plus production clues lathing and visible hammering style associated with cymbals which have a 70s stamp on them. For people on a tight budget like myself the Play as you Pay payment options keep me going. Read what the Zildjian Sound Lab had to say about crash cymbals here for example: The Pre Trans stamps are the earliest of the Avedis Zildjian trademark stamps. All later Avedis Zildjian stamps have dot dot dash dash at the bottom of the Ottoman section, so this is one way to tell you are looking at a Pre Trans Stamp cymbal. For me, it is equally likely that the years we have for these stamps are not well estimated. But that's a separate thing to what sort of evidence it takes to determine first year of stamp use in factory last year of stamp use in factory first recorded sale of cymbal with that stamp last recorded sale of a new cymbal with that stamp current record 25 years and start pinning things down to exact years.
Zildjian New Beats are considered the most versatile HiHat cymbals and the standard in the world today with a perfect all-purpose combination of stick and chick sound. Most of the earlier changes have to do with the changes in alignment and location. Feel free to call or email to discuss what you'd like to see done and we can work something out. It is true they didn't put ink saying Zildjian on their cymbals until the mid 1970s. Zidjian cast bronze cymbals are made from raw metal in Ziljian's own foundry through a complex sequence of heating, rolling, hammering and lathing.